tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6980742.post1869451715330098634..comments2023-12-28T14:43:54.874+00:00Comments on malung-tv-news: STRANGE BREAKFASTDAVE BONEShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08207525118627449541noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6980742.post-88561912164011542602008-02-26T14:13:00.000+00:002008-02-26T14:13:00.000+00:00MUSA AHMET COMMENT reintroduced:I musa brother of ...MUSA AHMET COMMENT reintroduced:<BR/><BR/>I musa brother of atiila would like to point out that hamid had no right to make a remark like he did about mt brother as my brother wasnt talking to hamid and wasnt talking about suicide, my brother was talking to ALI about his wife and saying to ali i need to pack it in and walking it where it needs to be walked and letting it go, what my brother was saying to ali was, he was packing his wife in and walking her where she needed to be walked and letting her go i.e seperating...AND at no point did my brother talk about suicide,<BR/><BR/>my brother didnt go around with someone that thought 7/7 was breakfast, my brother went to hamids house for friday food and islamic chat, he never went anywhere with the group, he hang around with me, we was watched for 8 months and we went for dinner to that restaurant when it was raided, i myself was even put into prison for almost 9 months and the terrorist charges was dropped and they released me, the police are not doing their job, they have arrested alot of innocent muslims,strange the media never told about my charges being dropped and me being released.even this case is aload of rubbish, i was in prison with the group and there was never ever a plot to blow anyone up,<BR/><BR/><BR/>This is Atillas wife here, I would like to add that my husband only went to hamids house 19 times in one year and for the last 6 weeks beore his arrest he didnt go,and as embarassing as it is yes he was having a go about me,and its just the way he speaks im quite used to it now after 10 years,he was having a bad day and never would consider suicide he loves his children and me too much and belives suicide is forbidden in islam.DAVE BONEShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08207525118627449541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6980742.post-74608726581224345622007-12-23T16:58:00.000+00:002007-12-23T16:58:00.000+00:00Anyway dude your coverage in this post kicks the s...Anyway dude your coverage in this post kicks the shit out of anything in the Times. You can write! I thought you were more of a hippy psychedelic finger-paint sort of person.Lazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07914611337488187529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6980742.post-10820819277658155132007-11-26T19:51:00.000+00:002007-11-26T19:51:00.000+00:00Well I can agree with that: throughout the time th...Well I can agree with that: throughout the time that I knew Hamid at Speakers’ Corner he was an on message conspiracy fruitcake. I remember on one occasion him telling us that senior British politicians routinely killed new born babies and drank their blood. This he claimed he discovered this while researching at a secret library here in the London. Poor Jihadi!<BR/><BR/>As the removed post by DB, if it’s necessary, so be it.African neoconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05108398570525940294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6980742.post-2880683903482794432007-11-26T18:48:00.000+00:002007-11-26T18:48:00.000+00:00*****************Taking advice I have removed a co...*****************<BR/><BR/>Taking advice I have removed a comment by MUSA AHMET due to worries about Contempt of Court issues.<BR/><BR/>This comment will re-appear at the end of the trial.DAVE BONEShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08207525118627449541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6980742.post-77331414816428820992007-11-25T23:37:00.000+00:002007-11-25T23:37:00.000+00:00Its great that you are here and talking. We have t...Its great that you are here and talking. We have to be careful of "contempt of court" issues around Hamid, I'm aware that a lot of this looks like evidence which won't be called now Atilla's pleaded guilty.<BR/><BR/>To address what Hamid said in court about his text message after 7/7. he explained that he sent the same message to a group list, even to people he had fallen out with, as he claimed had happened in the case of Muktar and Yassin.<BR/><BR/>He said that he was texting this in the firm belief that 7/7 was the work of MI-5 who wanted to instigate trouble for Muslims in this country, and that it was encouragement to stand firm in faith, not justification for terrorism.<BR/><BR/>As all of you know Hamid, he didn't say it quite like that but I think I've represented the spirit of his evidence.DAVE BONEShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08207525118627449541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6980742.post-36817537471191566832007-11-25T20:51:00.000+00:002007-11-25T20:51:00.000+00:00Your last post proves my point: British justice wo...Your last post proves my point: British justice works. It was very unfortunate that you had to experience what you when through. No matter how one views the police (and the negative stories we have heard about them) they sure don't enjoy ‘stitching up’ anyone let alone Muslims. In the UK (unlike some other countries) such acts always backfire. We must begin to learn to praise and cooperate with the police when they need our cooperation and criticize them when its appropriate.African neoconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05108398570525940294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6980742.post-4640638687104464692007-11-25T19:51:00.000+00:002007-11-25T19:51:00.000+00:00african neocon, you wrote,Regarding your arrest al...african neocon, you wrote,Regarding your arrest along with your brother in that restaurant, if the police were watching you for 8 months they must have valid suspicions for monitoring your movements or credible intelligence on whatever activities you may have been involved in? No doubt your release without charge should I hope give you confidence in British justice?<BR/>The reason my brother and myself being watched by the police was because of 1 person called sean, he was a very close so called friend, he embraced islam and became a muslim brother or so we all thought, he robbed my home as well as alot of other muslims he befriended,i went to his parents to find out where sean had gone to, i explained to his parents what sean had done,i tried to recover what this person stole from me,sean told his parents not to trust me and that i was a liar, he told them i was a terrorist, one thing led to another and sean started to have meetings with his parents present with the anti terrorist squad as well as special branch and mi5,sean told them that my brother atilla was a talker,but told them i was financing terrorism, thats how it became for the police to start to watch us, as you know i was put in prison for 8 months untill the police did their investigation on me and found out the truth that this was a lie by sean and i was released, HOW DO I KNOW THIS,I WAS TOLD BY A VERY CLOSE RELATIVE OF SEANS AND TOLD IN DETAIL, HE DID THIS TO ME WISHING THAT I WOULD GO AWAY FOR A VERY LONG TIME SO THAT HE COULD GET AWAY WITH ROBBING ME,AS FOR BRITISH JUSTICE, I THANK THE JURY VERY MUCH FOR FINDING ME NOT GUILTY ON THE SIGNAL KIT, AS FOR THE POLICE, THEY SHOULDNT STITCH INNOCENT PEOPLE UP AND DO THEIR JOBS PROPERLYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6980742.post-41793526794377783982007-11-25T18:44:00.000+00:002007-11-25T18:44:00.000+00:00Musa AhmetThank you for addressing my question on ...Musa Ahmet<BR/><BR/>Thank you for addressing my question on the text from Hamid. I should like to believe that you have answered it honestly.<BR/><BR/>As to your brother’s relationship with Hamid, I still feel that your brother could have done more shrug off the ‘label’ that many view him with - an Islamic extremist. In a democracy I believe we all have the right to air our views and show dissent on various issues. However, in a democracy we must also accept that some views will never be acceptable. <BR/><BR/>Regarding your arrest along with your brother in that restaurant, if the police were watching you for 8 months they must have valid suspicions for monitoring your movements or credible intelligence on whatever activities you may have been involved in? No doubt your release without charge should I hope give you confidence in British justice?African neoconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05108398570525940294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6980742.post-90759340145902369082007-11-24T21:11:00.000+00:002007-11-24T21:11:00.000+00:00yes your right about that very very bad day, i fee...yes your right about that very very bad day, i feel for all those who died, who are left limbless and the familys who will suffer for the rest of their lives, they will miss their loved ones everyday and on special days i.e birthdays and so on as will the people abroad who are suffering the same fate by the bombings from the west, as for hamids comment about fear none but allah, this is islamic, allah is our creator and it is he allah that we will be judged by on the day of jugdement and we are to fear allah and his punishment and not man or anyother thing, as for hamid sending it to a would be bomber, well, only allah and hamid knows why he sent that text.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6980742.post-39692698150637154912007-11-24T17:20:00.000+00:002007-11-24T17:20:00.000+00:00Does the text say it all? “Fear none but Allah” a...Does the text say it all? “Fear none but Allah” and "we will not change our ways." According to BBC, the above statement was a text that Mohammed Hamid had sent to Hussein Osman, one of the four 21/7 would-be suicide bombers, within hours of the 7/7 bombings. Of course only a real die hard terrorist would admit to the true meaning and reason for sending such a callous text to an ‘extremist’ (but there none). Not even Osama bin London can admit to the true meaning and reason for sending the text. So much for his many rants in Speakers’ Corner that he fears nobody (MI5 et al).<BR/><BR/>My question to Musa Ahmet (and I accept he might find it impossible to answer for Mohammed Hamid) is that what kind of person (Muslim or Kaffir) sends that text within hours of a horrific bombing aimed at killing innocent people of all faiths? Most sane and decent people of all faiths were sending messages of comfort and expressing fear on that sad day (I FELT REAL SADDNESS & ANGER THAT DAY). Can we really say that the above text message was one of ‘comfort’ to Hussein Osman or one of encouragement to stay the course of Jihad?African neoconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05108398570525940294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6980742.post-51653315700564960692007-11-24T16:35:00.000+00:002007-11-24T16:35:00.000+00:00My question to Musa Ahmet and I accept it might (n...My question to Musa Ahmet and I accept it might (now) be an irrelevant one is that why would his brother associate himself with anyone who goes around with the views that 7/7 was breakfast? Given that Atilla has been a person of interest to the authorities re his ‘extremist views’, wouldn’t it have been wise to stay clear of company that would reinforce the perception that he was an enemy of HMG (in the context of his views)? What I’m getting at here is surely he could have done more (be proactive) in demonstrating that his views are not ‘extremist’ in the way that many (including myself) feel they are (having listen to him once at Speakers’ Corner and several times on TV)?<BR/><BR/>It’s all too late now, Atilla and the rest of the group’s fate now lies in the hands of British justice.African neoconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05108398570525940294noreply@blogger.com