October 18, 2005

RELIJUN

What interests me so much about religion and belief? Whenever i come across a christian blog I can totally relate to it from my memories of how important church life was to me. Here's a christian woman relating how she is being dissed for preaching by the more othodox types. Women preaching wasn't the done thing in my church growing up.

11 comments:

Becky Durham said...

I'm curious what you think about women preachers. As someone who grew up in a church where it was not "done," is your first response to think that it is wrong or right? I'm not trying to trap you, because your beliefs are your beliefs and I respect that. I just wonder if growing up in a church (even if now you're no longer a Christian) that believed a certain way has influenced your immediate reaction.

Thanks for commenting in my blog.

Becky

DAVE BONES said...

Not at all. It makes no difference to me. I certainly don't think it is wrong. As I said, its what people say which counts with me.

If anything growing up in a church which was against women preachers makes me react the other way..

What are your politics? I'll ask R+B what he thinks. he's a christian.

Becky Durham said...

I'm the new American woman--instead of red and blue politics, I'm purple. Liberal in some areas and conservative in others.

DAVE BONES said...

that sounds worthwhile. Form a party and get rid of the has-beens.

DAVE BONES said...

What do you think? Are women allowed to preach? I know that in the New testament it seems to be forbidden, but in the old testament gays are supposed to be put to death too.

How do you reconcile yourself with the stranger parts of your religion?

Indigobusiness said...

My belief is they would go a long way in bolstering credibility if they didn't work so hard at squelching genuine religious experience.

Which brings me to this quote:

"The contemporary World War on Drugs is nothing more nor less than the modern manifestation of the millennial struggle between state power and individual freedom; between the proselytizers of purely symbolic simulacra of religion - propagandists of what Blake called "pale religious letchery" - and the practitioners of the real thing - for religion is an experience, not merely a "social activity with mild ethical rules." This War on Drugs originally started as a War on Religious Experiences, and it is nothing new..."
—Jonathan Ott


God is NOT an Asshole

DAVE BONES said...

Totally with you indigo. We know it to be true.

R+B I was just brewing a blog omparing the effect "What the Bleep" a film about the true implications of particle physis on human conciousness and "unlocking the mysteries of life" the intelligent design film.

both have the implications you describe.

Was your religious moment an "epiphany"? was it a "baptism in the holy spirit"?

the seond was a very hotly contested subject in my hurch growing up. there was a very painful divide over the subject. do you speak in tongues?

Indigobusiness said...
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Indigobusiness said...

I'll answer you when there is more time and space. I'd be interested in your thoughts, but space is limited here.

If you don't know Chica Bruce, check her out. She is receptive and would surely answer any questions about her take on 'What the Bleep'.

from disinfo.com
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Media Underground Interview: Alexandra 'Chica' Bruce
'Alexandra Bruce knows how to keep her life interesting. As a real life Dana Scully she spends much of her time researching such diverse subjects as quantum physics, metaphysics, sub-cultures and urban legends.

'Known mostly for her research into the Montauk Project and Ong's Hat legend, Chica (as she prefers to be called) has recently written an unauthorised guide to the unlikeliest cult movie of 2004: What The Bleep Do We Know!? - a part documentary, part motion picture about a woman going through an existential crisis, who discovers the uncertain world of the quantum field which hides behind reality.

'Chica is also the author of The Philadelphia Experiment Murder: Parallel Universes & The Physics Of Insanity and has written articles for Paranoia Magazine, Steamshovel Press, Borderland Sciences and Disinfo.com.

'She currently lives in Rio de Janeiro and has recently translated a book on the Mystery of Fátima.' (Exclusive interview from Media Underground).
--
I played email tag with her, for a bit, when I alerted her to the plight of the Kogi (an extraordinary people, with a message).

I'm working on a new website called Apocalypsos, which you're welcome to preview, if you wish.

BTW, I posted an entry for Socialist Wanker (and a link to your gallery) at Sensibly Eclectic.com.

Cheers!

DAVE BONES said...

Nice 1!

I've got really stuck into "What the bleep" at the moment. Sometimes I think it is pearls of infinate wisdom sometimes I think its complete bullshit all the way thru. I will follow your links and see what your friend has to say.

Indigobusiness said...

I know what you mean about 'What the Bleep'. But it isn't a singular entity. It represents cutting edge angles on existence, some more compelling than others.

Wm Tiller's work at Stanford, for instance, has verified in clinical experiments that thoughts alone can influence the ph of water. This might seem a bit dry to some (no pun intended), but it verifies (at least for me) that thoughts are things. Eastern mind has known this for ages, but to see it indicated by clinical scrutiny is profound.