OK. Until I can get it together to write this up properly for socialistwanker I have a treat exclusively for readers of this blog. Thanks to everyone for stopping by.
A year on the street
streams in Windows media player, or downloads 12 min approx.
Harking back to a more innocent time this is a flavour of events starting from the very beginning of the current Iraq war, up to and including Abu Hamza's "celebration" of a year confronting media and government on the street in Finsbury park.
On the street, the idea that he was dangerous or would be arrested seemed to be far fetched. As did the idea that any home grown Muslim would plant a bomb in this country.
These were my first shaky attempts to get what I saw as the other side of the story across. It was a story I neither felt threatened by nor felt needed supressing in any way. There were lots of things I disagreed with, but I never felt as if I could not discuss them with members of the Supporters of Shariah. As was said by the very nice lady in last night's Why bomb London? - We've been monitoring the Supporters of Shariah for years!
Heart felt thanks to all the Malung TV Camera people
Mike H, Jinn Sidhu and Jubal.
the scratch-dub incidental music is courtesy of DJ Jerome Hill.
There is more of this on the way, I think the next one will focus on the UBA.
Thanks again.
Problems with downloading or any comments about this mpg do help yourself. As Mr. Hamza used to say before he disappeared
"We are open for discussion."
12 comments:
Another swipe at the Finsbury Park crowd, from Armavirumque -- since I think you keep a file of these.
I'm disappointed with myself, at how poorly I'm able to fact-check it against what I've learned from your blog.
From Instapundit.
Are you guys checking out my video? I spent until 4 am putting that up.
Interesting video. Great footage & editing. Some of the accents are hard (for us 'mericans) to understand.
When did you shave your head?
17:17: "Have you got friends in Guantanamo Bay?" A:"That I won't answer."
What's the white flag with red cross that guy was holding?
That is the English flag (as opposed to the union jack). As footballing nations we are still separate.
I shaved my head about a year and a half ago. I had a bit of an identity crisis but I think I've got hold of it now.
I wish I could put up some of the coresponding TV news to compare it to.
Abdullah would say that all Muslims are his brothers. He would vouch for all of them against "kaffir law".
I'm sort of half way there on that one to be honest. Having met Martin Mubanga and Addnan Saddiqui from caged prisoners The whole Guantanamo set up looks stupid and futile on a lot of peoples TVs over here.
DB: 'He would vouch for all of them against "kaffir law".'
What about the bombers themselves?
(P.S.: The "funny hats" remark was way out of line. Who was that guy?)
that was a guy called martin. I sort of respected him for coming down and having a slanging match in the street and I prefer this to most of the journalists attempts.
It is abu hamza trying to justify himself face to face with a real citizen. Martin is a good example of the sort of opinion of hamza I have encountered.
I put a transcript up here but the html is a bit fukt. (scroll down)
The transcript is very helpful. Thanks.
"Every single country where people have got funny hats have got trouble. Yeah?"
I think that remark is incredibly rude and inappropriate. But if he would have made the same remark about those wearing the full face/head coverings (as several did in the video), perhaps he wouldn't have been far off.
Does that guy's image spring to mind when you think of Republicans?
There was a big article in the sun. Abu Hamza's face was big in the news.
I know Martin's comments were a bit over the top but he is an example of public opinion which has been focused by journalists and press.
A lot of it is fact but it is hard to see the wood for the trees. It is also very hard to tell if someone is a terrorist or not.
I can see why Muslim's might believe they work hand in hand with the government. Personaly I am plesed that I have seen good journalist's doing stuff as well but it is all about fundamental differences in the communication across lines of class in London.
It was all a bit stupid with David Blunkett accusing Hamza in the press from Westminster and Hamza answering from the street in Finsbury park.
I always wondered why he didn't just hop in a taxi and have a slanging match with Hamza like Martin did.
I think a younger Ken Livingstone might have done.
Dave -
No, I hadn't seen your movies. I don't think I was able to open them before, but the new links work fine.
First off, I am very unfamiliar with 100% of the persons in the film, but I read your short description and got the jist of it.
I liked the close up shots and even the fact that my computer would freeze every so often which allowed me to read the faces and body language of the people.
I liked what happened after the "Funny Hat" conversation, when the one skinhead looking dude, (Martin, I see that you call him) said to the Hazma: You've made youself one of the most hated people in this country" and then Hazma said "It's hate like yours that makes me have to speak out" - you could just read Martin's face: he knew Hazma was right deep inside. That's why he walked away, I think.
Great work, Dave, glad I finally got to see it.
Cheers babes! I wish I had a camera to film in the strip joint I used to work in, I think it would be a subject mater more close top your heart.
this is an article about Abu Abdullah. I posted Tequilita a link to it the week it came out and she sent me an email saying
"Dave. I've got to ask you. You're not in league with "them" are you? My mum would kick my ass if she knew I was communicationg with you."
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
crikey, some of hamzas crew were coming across a bit intimidating near the end there.
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