Fucking immigrants 1.
Fucking immigrants 2.
Fucking immigrants 3.
Immigration seems to be an issue now in the states as well as over here in the UK. I always used to argue that British people of the "they come over 'ere, steal our wimin" variety should be deported somewhere hot where things are more relaxed for a compulsory two year stretch. I thought it would be of benefit to them. They may not like it at first but they'd thank you later maybe. As far as I am concerned immigration is the history of humanity since year dot.
I found this.
Americans of hispanic descent are also sick of having their names drug through the mud by lawbreakers who, like barnacles, attempt to attach themselves in the eyes of society to these good people. Josue Sierra at Latino Issues blog expressed those concerns when he wrote the other day, “I am a son of immigrants. My parents are Cuban. But I am an American, born in the United States, and sworn loyal to my country. It is days like these that make life harder for people like me.”
Here is the take on the subject in Sparkleland.
This is a view from an influential Hispanic.
What do you reckon?
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"Hi. How are you? Got a job? Obey the law? Pay taxes? Great! Welcome to America!"
Legal immigrants should resent illegals. People who legally immigrate obeyed the law, put in their time and were rewarded with a green card or citizenship. Its very easy to immigrate to America.
Immigrants have a legitimate beef with Federal bureaucracy, stupid archaic rules and slow service. Welcome to government efficiency! This is one of many reasons I am ideologically opposed to large intrusive governing bodies and want government as local and accessable as possible, but I digress.
Illegal immigrants skip all the hurdles that legal immigrants go thru. Illegals BY DEFINITION are not honest, they break the law just by being here even if they are otherwise good people.
This is a difficult problem and I could go on and on. The root of the problem is government in the first place. Government rules on employers that make it difficult and expensive to hire people, making it attractive to hire illicit labor. Stupid and lengthy government regulations that make it difficult and expensive for hardworking people to come to American to get a simple job. Excessive transfer payments and welfare programs that attract freeloaders - programs that have their own bureaucracy and advocacy groups who have the ideological cause and self interest to insist on subsidizing non-citizens even at the expense of society....
Okay, I will quit now before I write a manifesto.... :P
McHenry’s Third Law: People who write manifestos are always wrong.
"I am ideologically opposed to large intrusive governing bodies and want government as local and accessable as possible, but I digress"
don't digress...
I'm with bigdog.
At some point one must distinguish between legal and illegal activity. If not, you're lost: "Well, he just kills people to better his own life. Can't blame him for that!"
"America needs a new wave of immigrants to love her afresh." I forgot who said that, but I agree.
What makes a country desirable to emigrate to? Why aren't people flocking the other way? If everyone in the world were to immediately relocate to the country of their choosing, what would those countries then be like? Ponder these at length.
Illegal immigration (here in the US) discriminates against Africans, Haitians, Asians, and others who don't have the luxury of a shared border to sneak across. Endorsing that is endorsing discrimination (racism's cousin).
I rekon it should be a free for all everywhere. All we have here is propped up on the exploited labour of those less fortunate than ourselves. I don't think this is right. I think everyone (religious people especially) should stop being protectionist and work towards levelling the playingfield for those on less than 2 dolars a day.
The poor would be thrown a lifeline, the religious people would truly feel better about themselves and stop working themselves to death.
I think thats what Jesus would say.
DB: All we have here is propped up on the exploited labour of those less fortunate than ourselves.
Equating hiring someone to exploiting them makes for great marxist demagoguery, but doesn't stand to scrutiny.
DB: I think everyone (religious people especially) should stop being protectionist...
bigdog says "Welcome to America!" That's not protectionist.
DB: .. and work towards levelling the playingfield for those on less than 2 dolars a day. The poor would be thrown a lifeline, ...
That's playingfield's natural level: extreme poverty by today's standards (e.g., subsistence farming, nomadic shepherding and hunting, etc). Crushing ourselves under poverty (as every socialist government has done) would take away the lifelines that do exist.
DB: I think thats what Jesus would say.
Study what Jesus did say.
2 dollars a day. Paid by corporate capitalists. Look at the clothes you are wearing. Look at the shoes on your feet. It constantly suprises me that they don't get together and bomb the lot of us my friend.
It constantly suprises me that they don't get together and bomb the lot of us my friend.
I'm glad you're thinking enough about it to be surprised. What about the Bali bombing? Not a proletariat action, but consider its impoverishing effect. So what would getting together and bombing the lot of us achieve?
By the way, 2 dollars a day is a sad thing (and 1 dollar a day even sadder). I'm just saying that socialists (maybe including you) don't have anything to offer but hand-wringing (and much, much more poverty).
and as I keep saying over and over- why one or the other?
"Why one or the other?" meaning socialism or capitalism? Or capitalism and something we know that works better than capitalism?
(P.S.: How's the drying out going? I'm still praying for you.)
meaning socialism or capitalism. If both have blatantly been shown not to work, it is blindingly obvious to me that we need to look at those blatancies (?) and find something which does work surely.
(yup, still dry, very hard to play the guitar hard to find a purpose now I've kicked the film into touch-cheers for the prayers)
I honestly thought Blair was going to do it with this 3rd way he was talking about. I didn't realise for a second his 3rd way was to behave like Maggie Thatchers lost son.
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