Nothing new to report as yet, still sorting out the technology :-)
Found some interesting links-
a Jamaican article about Sheikh Faisal being deported from Kenya
and an article in the Independent US waves white flag in disastrous 'war on drugs'
Also I have just finnished Edna Fernades' Holy Warriors which I thought was a really good book about the Political and religious struggles within India.
Review here
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Showing posts with label Abdullah Al- Faisal. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Abdullah Al- Faisal. Show all posts
February 02, 2010
November 11, 2008
SONGS OF PRAISE IN JAMAICA
This is great. You'd never get this over here. Brought to you by Digicell. Ian Boyne is a big star in Jamaica. Everyone watches this on Sunday night. Ian takes on the evils of dancehall here
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October 24, 2008
MALUNG TV NEWS
I had three punctures today on two different bikes. Life is trying to tell me something important? Lets find out.
Before all that I cycled to Whitechapel to buy some dv tapes. You know, I thought- fuck it. Lets take up filming mad Muslims again. See what happens. This time, I am much calmer, much more certain of what I am doing and why I am doing it. Hamza and Atilla was a very painful, obsessive, emotionally draining experience. I've had a lot of time off, during which time I have become very good friends with Musa Ahmet. In five years I've had zero financial success, but I've got to know Musa, so I don't care. Its all been worth it.
A friend of mine asked me to pick up some tailors chalk. I knew a place a little further north of the river. I cycled up brick lane to pick up a breakfast from one of the famous bagel shops. As I cycled off I saw a face I recognized but couldn't put a name to. I sat and thought for a second, then turned round.
"Are you Mousa Brown?"
"Dave Bones!"
The last time I had seen this Mousa he was behind bullet proof glass at Woolwich crown court. It was good to see him as a free man, carrying on with his life. We talked for ages about the court case. I had missed his testimony, but the court reporter who I had become friends with told me he had made a good account of himself.
It sounded like I had missed the most interesting part of the trial.
"I made Farrel look like an idiot. He only asked me one question which actually related to the charge I was on."
He said the Police had suppressed tapes which would clear him, and distorted tapes in places so they appeared to say something else. He said at one point after he was charged a policeman came in to the interview room at Paddington green and said
"Salaam Aleikum! Don't worry, we know you are not a terrorist. I can help you."
He reckoned the whole trial was ridiculous. He was aware of the tensions between Atilla and Hamid from first hand in Belmarsh but didn't believe either were bad people.
"Run a terror organisation? Hamid couldn't run a bath."
He said that in pre trial arrangements The judge had banned them from referring to an expert from the 21/7 trial who had said that what they were talking about was from the Koran. During his testimony he had tried to refer to the guy as someone who could help the jury a couple of times and the judge and prosecution had objected, leading the jury to smell a rat. One time when he dismissed the jury for lunch the judge had held Mousa back.
"I know very well what you are up to. What do you think you are playing at?" he asked.
"I am trying to defend myself." said Mousa.
He said that the Police had released his minibus and his sprinter van almost immediately after he had got out. His wife had declared them off the road for the 18 months he was inside. Within days a tow truck came to pick one of them up as untaxed. He suspected the Police had a hand in this.
"Inside I wouldn't talk to the screws. They suspected me of this and that. I don't hide what I think of people. I got arrested doing what I have always done for twenty years. I pray five times a day. I am a Muslim."
He said he wouldn't want to repeat the experience but he had learned from it.
"I bet you steer clear of Muslim groups now no? Have you been back to Speakers Corner?" I asked.
He said that he had a couple of times.
When I got back home I offered to help a friend down the road to pick up a couple of bags of tiling glue for his floor on our bikes. We cycled along the river. I had puncture number one near the millennium dome. The tube was so old I couldn't get the valve undone so I had to push the bike to B+Q to get some hacksaw blades. My friend carried a spare tube, but it was an ultra thin one for a racer. Luckily with 25kg of floor glue on the handlebars it went not too far from home.
A couple of hours later I borrowed a bike and headed up to east London at the invitation of Abu Waleed. As there is a bit of interest in what I am doing now my tourist camera no longer cuts it, so it is always a scrabble to find friends with professional cameras who are actually interested enough in what I do to lend a hand.
Funnily enough, the person who has always shown the most interest is a girl who is as facially pierced as I am. Obviously with Muslims strict rules of segregation this posses a problem. I had emailed Mr Walled earlier. He told me the room in which they met had a curtain down the middle and she would have to be on the other side.
We arrived to find the London School of Sharreah was under an east London railway arch. There were maybe 12 British Asian guys in their early twenties and through the curtain I think I could see two females in Muslim dress. My camera woman friend set up on the other side.
Abu Waleed talks very fast. He makes a lot of jokes, more than Hamza. He isn't angry like Hamza was some times and Atilla was most of the time in Finsbury park. He is happy to critisize other Muslim scholars by name, and does so a lot. Scholars he respects are Hamza, Bakri who he calls Sheik Omar, Al Faisal, and he also spoke well of a Palestinian sheik who he left his audience to guess. I would assume he is referring to Abu Qatada.
At no point did he remotely glorify terrorism, or encourage his audience in any acts of violence, but he would indulge in a lot of black humour about the situation Muslims find themselves in. I could see why he was charismatic to the group in front of him and how what he said and the way he said it would be relevant to their lives. I was bemused at how often I heard the unmistakable chuckle of my friend with the camera through the curtain. The atmosphere Waleed projects is very relaxed. People would duck out to answer their mobile phones and interupted whenever they liked, mostly to ask him to repeat his justifications from the Koran.
At the end of his talk he thought I was going to ask questions. I had made loads of notes after our phone conversation the other day but hadn't brought them as I knew we would need much more time to go through everything and I was too knackered to attempt questioning at 10 pm on a friday. I asked him to think of a place he would be comfortable to sit down for an afternoon to film properly.
On the way home we stopped in my favourite east end pakistani dinner.
"They believe things I would disagree with but they are OK really as people aren't they?" said my camerawoman.
"I think so. I think we are more extreme than they are" I agreed.
I had puncture number three on the way back.
I will put up some clips of what Abu Waleed had to say on youtube soon as.
Before all that I cycled to Whitechapel to buy some dv tapes. You know, I thought- fuck it. Lets take up filming mad Muslims again. See what happens. This time, I am much calmer, much more certain of what I am doing and why I am doing it. Hamza and Atilla was a very painful, obsessive, emotionally draining experience. I've had a lot of time off, during which time I have become very good friends with Musa Ahmet. In five years I've had zero financial success, but I've got to know Musa, so I don't care. Its all been worth it.
A friend of mine asked me to pick up some tailors chalk. I knew a place a little further north of the river. I cycled up brick lane to pick up a breakfast from one of the famous bagel shops. As I cycled off I saw a face I recognized but couldn't put a name to. I sat and thought for a second, then turned round.
"Are you Mousa Brown?"
"Dave Bones!"
The last time I had seen this Mousa he was behind bullet proof glass at Woolwich crown court. It was good to see him as a free man, carrying on with his life. We talked for ages about the court case. I had missed his testimony, but the court reporter who I had become friends with told me he had made a good account of himself.
It sounded like I had missed the most interesting part of the trial.
"I made Farrel look like an idiot. He only asked me one question which actually related to the charge I was on."
He said the Police had suppressed tapes which would clear him, and distorted tapes in places so they appeared to say something else. He said at one point after he was charged a policeman came in to the interview room at Paddington green and said
"Salaam Aleikum! Don't worry, we know you are not a terrorist. I can help you."
He reckoned the whole trial was ridiculous. He was aware of the tensions between Atilla and Hamid from first hand in Belmarsh but didn't believe either were bad people.
"Run a terror organisation? Hamid couldn't run a bath."
He said that in pre trial arrangements The judge had banned them from referring to an expert from the 21/7 trial who had said that what they were talking about was from the Koran. During his testimony he had tried to refer to the guy as someone who could help the jury a couple of times and the judge and prosecution had objected, leading the jury to smell a rat. One time when he dismissed the jury for lunch the judge had held Mousa back.
"I know very well what you are up to. What do you think you are playing at?" he asked.
"I am trying to defend myself." said Mousa.
He said that the Police had released his minibus and his sprinter van almost immediately after he had got out. His wife had declared them off the road for the 18 months he was inside. Within days a tow truck came to pick one of them up as untaxed. He suspected the Police had a hand in this.
"Inside I wouldn't talk to the screws. They suspected me of this and that. I don't hide what I think of people. I got arrested doing what I have always done for twenty years. I pray five times a day. I am a Muslim."
He said he wouldn't want to repeat the experience but he had learned from it.
"I bet you steer clear of Muslim groups now no? Have you been back to Speakers Corner?" I asked.
He said that he had a couple of times.
When I got back home I offered to help a friend down the road to pick up a couple of bags of tiling glue for his floor on our bikes. We cycled along the river. I had puncture number one near the millennium dome. The tube was so old I couldn't get the valve undone so I had to push the bike to B+Q to get some hacksaw blades. My friend carried a spare tube, but it was an ultra thin one for a racer. Luckily with 25kg of floor glue on the handlebars it went not too far from home.
A couple of hours later I borrowed a bike and headed up to east London at the invitation of Abu Waleed. As there is a bit of interest in what I am doing now my tourist camera no longer cuts it, so it is always a scrabble to find friends with professional cameras who are actually interested enough in what I do to lend a hand.
Funnily enough, the person who has always shown the most interest is a girl who is as facially pierced as I am. Obviously with Muslims strict rules of segregation this posses a problem. I had emailed Mr Walled earlier. He told me the room in which they met had a curtain down the middle and she would have to be on the other side.
We arrived to find the London School of Sharreah was under an east London railway arch. There were maybe 12 British Asian guys in their early twenties and through the curtain I think I could see two females in Muslim dress. My camera woman friend set up on the other side.
Abu Waleed talks very fast. He makes a lot of jokes, more than Hamza. He isn't angry like Hamza was some times and Atilla was most of the time in Finsbury park. He is happy to critisize other Muslim scholars by name, and does so a lot. Scholars he respects are Hamza, Bakri who he calls Sheik Omar, Al Faisal, and he also spoke well of a Palestinian sheik who he left his audience to guess. I would assume he is referring to Abu Qatada.
At no point did he remotely glorify terrorism, or encourage his audience in any acts of violence, but he would indulge in a lot of black humour about the situation Muslims find themselves in. I could see why he was charismatic to the group in front of him and how what he said and the way he said it would be relevant to their lives. I was bemused at how often I heard the unmistakable chuckle of my friend with the camera through the curtain. The atmosphere Waleed projects is very relaxed. People would duck out to answer their mobile phones and interupted whenever they liked, mostly to ask him to repeat his justifications from the Koran.
At the end of his talk he thought I was going to ask questions. I had made loads of notes after our phone conversation the other day but hadn't brought them as I knew we would need much more time to go through everything and I was too knackered to attempt questioning at 10 pm on a friday. I asked him to think of a place he would be comfortable to sit down for an afternoon to film properly.
On the way home we stopped in my favourite east end pakistani dinner.
"They believe things I would disagree with but they are OK really as people aren't they?" said my camerawoman.
"I think so. I think we are more extreme than they are" I agreed.
I had puncture number three on the way back.
I will put up some clips of what Abu Waleed had to say on youtube soon as.
June 23, 2008
Al Faisal
Daniel Sandford has done a great interview with Abdullah Al-Faisal. I am relieved that he speaks against bombing innocents. Article on the BBC website here
June 11, 2008
AHHH JIHADIS ETC
Can't blog or compute much as I have a bit of repetitive strain in my arm and have a gig on Saturday and must rest it.
Islamic fanatics are openly using the internet to recruit children in Britain, says Civitas
This article mentions Islambase who feature some of my videos.
Muslim children in Britain 'brought up to hate their homeland'
Muslim parents to blame for children turning to extremism
Islamic fanatics are openly using the internet to recruit children in Britain, says Civitas
This article mentions Islambase who feature some of my videos.
Muslim children in Britain 'brought up to hate their homeland'
Muslim parents to blame for children turning to extremism
February 26, 2008
IT RHYMES
Here's a good one- HAMZAS MATES NEW WEB OF HATE
A PAL of hook-handed Abu Hamza is continuing a war of hate against Britain — after being DEPORTED.
Evil Adbullah al-Faisal, 44, jailed here in 2003 for soliciting the murder of Jews and Americans, is mounting an internet campaign from his homeland Jamaica. The preacher of hate — an associate of notorious rabble-rouser Hamza — was kicked out after his release last year. He is now raising cash from followers so he can carry on his wicked doctrine on the web. In an interview posted on an extremist British website, he defends terrorism and appeals for funds for equipment to broadcast online and to pay for an international “lecture tour”. He says Allah will “reward” those who donate.
I've been speaking to Hajj a bit recently about "Hamza's mate" Adbullah al-Faisal. He said that just before Al-Faisal was arrested he spoke ill of Hamza. Hajj was angry and asked him to take it back. Apparently Hamza challenged him to a public debate which he didn't turn up to or wriggled out of. Hajj went to where the debate was supposed to happen (Finsbury Park Mosque I think) listened to Hamza speak and stuck with Hamza from then on. He said Al-Faisal wouldn't hurt a fly. He just "Got angry" when he preached.
Apparently when Al- Faisal was deported after his release he was offered to appear on Al-Jazeera etc, but the only media appearance he would accept was Jamaican TV. Jamaica, being a very religious place (I think there are more churches per head than anywhere else) has a popular show on TV every Sunday night called Religious hard Talk. I haven't seen it all the way through, I think the DVD is in two parts. A taster of the second part, where he debates a christian preacher is on youtube. As you can see, the presenter isn't really frightened of Al Faisal is he-
Hajj said that Faisal doesn't get any trouble in Jamaica because Jamaicans are aware of global conspiracies of the world powers. Speaking to people in Jamaica I noticed no one had any love for US and UK foreign policy. I'm sure they wouldn't have any problems with his views about homosexuality as it is illegal there.
A PAL of hook-handed Abu Hamza is continuing a war of hate against Britain — after being DEPORTED.
Evil Adbullah al-Faisal, 44, jailed here in 2003 for soliciting the murder of Jews and Americans, is mounting an internet campaign from his homeland Jamaica. The preacher of hate — an associate of notorious rabble-rouser Hamza — was kicked out after his release last year. He is now raising cash from followers so he can carry on his wicked doctrine on the web. In an interview posted on an extremist British website, he defends terrorism and appeals for funds for equipment to broadcast online and to pay for an international “lecture tour”. He says Allah will “reward” those who donate.
I've been speaking to Hajj a bit recently about "Hamza's mate" Adbullah al-Faisal. He said that just before Al-Faisal was arrested he spoke ill of Hamza. Hajj was angry and asked him to take it back. Apparently Hamza challenged him to a public debate which he didn't turn up to or wriggled out of. Hajj went to where the debate was supposed to happen (Finsbury Park Mosque I think) listened to Hamza speak and stuck with Hamza from then on. He said Al-Faisal wouldn't hurt a fly. He just "Got angry" when he preached.
Apparently when Al- Faisal was deported after his release he was offered to appear on Al-Jazeera etc, but the only media appearance he would accept was Jamaican TV. Jamaica, being a very religious place (I think there are more churches per head than anywhere else) has a popular show on TV every Sunday night called Religious hard Talk. I haven't seen it all the way through, I think the DVD is in two parts. A taster of the second part, where he debates a christian preacher is on youtube. As you can see, the presenter isn't really frightened of Al Faisal is he-
Hajj said that Faisal doesn't get any trouble in Jamaica because Jamaicans are aware of global conspiracies of the world powers. Speaking to people in Jamaica I noticed no one had any love for US and UK foreign policy. I'm sure they wouldn't have any problems with his views about homosexuality as it is illegal there.
December 10, 2005
HAJJ'S PLACE
OK. I just got back from Hajj's place where I got to see Channel 4's dispatches programme on Extraordinary rendition. Very good stuff anchored by Andrew Gilligan. I also heard from Hajj that two ex-attendee's of Finsbury park mosque have been arrested. A couple of Algerians they want to deport but I'm still trying to work out which ones. He went into more detail about the centrality of his house to "fundamental" Islam.
"al-Faisal used to call this his second home."
Hamza had been round, all the neighbours know Hajj well.
"Meetings with these people and up to sixty people happened here all the time for years. This is a dawa house."
The Police have never, ever questioned Hajj once about anything.
"Someone drew the curtain once. I said brother why do you draw the curtain? My house is open, the door is open. Nothing in here is secret. If anyone has secrets, take them somewhere else."
After the film I watched Yvonne Ridley on the Islamic channel for a bit. I told Hajj I had met her once but she didn't seem to like me very much. He said that all of them had thought something bad about me when they had first seen me.
"What- you thought I was MI-5?"
"Worse."
"A Satan worshipper?"
"Worse. I don't want to say and insult you..."
"Ahhh... You thought I was gay because of the bones in my ears..."
"Yes. That was the discussion we had. Its not because of what you look like in itself..."
"And being gay is worse than worshipping Satan?"
"Do you think homosexuals are naturally born that way?"
"Yes. I think so." I said. "Although I am not gay myself, I agree with the rights of gays and lesbians who live here in peace. The world is over populated anyway..."
"So how would God make something that isn't perfect?"
It is hard talking to someone with a God concept when I don't have one. Its strange talking in such a peacable manner about such emotive things. Hajj has taken a step back from all things "fundamental" including, I fear further participation in my filming. If I could I'd have a camera on him 24/7 and it wouldn't be for security reasons. I want to film him on his step-machine.
"al-Faisal used to call this his second home."
Hamza had been round, all the neighbours know Hajj well.
"Meetings with these people and up to sixty people happened here all the time for years. This is a dawa house."
The Police have never, ever questioned Hajj once about anything.
"Someone drew the curtain once. I said brother why do you draw the curtain? My house is open, the door is open. Nothing in here is secret. If anyone has secrets, take them somewhere else."
After the film I watched Yvonne Ridley on the Islamic channel for a bit. I told Hajj I had met her once but she didn't seem to like me very much. He said that all of them had thought something bad about me when they had first seen me.
"What- you thought I was MI-5?"
"Worse."
"A Satan worshipper?"
"Worse. I don't want to say and insult you..."
"Ahhh... You thought I was gay because of the bones in my ears..."
"Yes. That was the discussion we had. Its not because of what you look like in itself..."
"And being gay is worse than worshipping Satan?"
"Do you think homosexuals are naturally born that way?"
"Yes. I think so." I said. "Although I am not gay myself, I agree with the rights of gays and lesbians who live here in peace. The world is over populated anyway..."
"So how would God make something that isn't perfect?"
It is hard talking to someone with a God concept when I don't have one. Its strange talking in such a peacable manner about such emotive things. Hajj has taken a step back from all things "fundamental" including, I fear further participation in my filming. If I could I'd have a camera on him 24/7 and it wouldn't be for security reasons. I want to film him on his step-machine.
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